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From: Steve Kalec
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997

Manfred M. Junius in his book ( Practical Handbook of Plant Alchemy )
on page 61 says , " If we cultivate these plants in our own garden, we can
considerably increase their content in volatile Sulfur by giving them a proper
neighborhood of other plants, for example, by planting them together with stinging
nettles ". So this spring I planted a garden of Melissa mixed together with some
stinging Nettles. Has anyone tried this ? Has anyone found this to be true ?
What would the principle be behind this ? Why stinging Nettles ?

Also does anyone have any information as to when is it the best time to harvest
these gardens for best results in content. Does one wait till some time in fall or is
there a proper time sometime in summer.

Thank you
Steve Kalec


Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997
From: Dr. Daniel Beilin

Why don't you start studying Steiner, eh?




From: Andre Le Sage
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997

In the Splendor Soils it Says

"Halli the Philosopher says that this stone is brought forth by greening
and growing things"

The Sufi term for Heaven also means Garden?

By what is distilled in your garden by your tree is the Philosophical
Mercury not Sulfur, it is the essence of the feminine principle i.e. Luna,
the moon as opposed to the contents of your stomach (retort?)
post distillation within you Lab. Only when both are brought
forth can they be united, but this is useless without the third, what you
might call the animal stone which is distilled in your Head, after all
we are but animals?

A


From: Steve Kalec
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997


To : Dr. Daniel Beilin

> Why don't you start studying Steiner, eh?

Thank you very much for the suggestion. A little more information
though about Steiner and who he is and what he teaches would have greatly
been appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve Kalec


Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997
From: James Callaway

Steiner was neither the first nor the ultimate in discerning patterns of
natural energies. You may well benefit from some readings in anthroposophical
science but better yet to go to the source - spend some time with your
melissa and learn her voice - you will have to be very small and quiet. Once
you establish contact, you will not need to ask another for advice. Develop
your ability to access inner guidance and always question those whose
"knowledge" comes from reading books, for the written word is so often
misunderstood.

May all your wishes be fulfilled ! Peace !


Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97
From: MIKE DICKMAN

Steve

If I may chip in, and without going off into a long diatribe about matters
probably best left undisturbed: you might well be better off following James
Calloway's advice than Dr. Beilin's in this case.

Quoting George quoting Theatrum Chemicum Volume II:

Therefore all those who desire to attain the blessing of this art should
apply themselves to study, should gather the truth from the books and not
from invented fables and untruthful works. There is no way by which this
art can truly be found (although men meet with many deceptions), except by
completing their studies and understanding the words of the philosophers

Got to get ourselves back to the garden!

Love,
m


From: Turiyan gold
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997

>From: Steve Kalec
>To Alchemist Gardeners and all,
>
>Manfred M. Junius in his book ( Practical Handbook of Plant Alchemy )
>on page 61 says , " If we cultivate these plants in our own garden, we can
>considerably increase their content in volatile Sulfur by giving them a proper
>neighborhood of other plants, for example, by planting them together with
>stinging nettles ". So this spring I planted a garden of Melissa mixed together with
some

Question #1: where does one get stinging nettle seeds?

>stinging Nettles. Has anyone tried this ? Has anyone found this to be true ?
>What would the principle be behind this ? Why stinging Nettles ?

Question #2: what herbs contain a lot of sulfur?

i'm assuming stinging nettles do.

Turiyan gold


Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997
From: Lisa

I believe that stinging nettles contain a lot of iron. For sulphur I would
suggest growing members of the mustard and Brassica family,
For a good selection of high quality seed (I know they carry nettles.)
Seeds of Change
PO Box 15700
Santa Fe, NM 87506
USA

All the Best,
Lisa


From: Steve Kalec
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997


Dear Mike,

> Got to get ourselves back to the garden!

Thats a very apt phrase for this topic. I believe it comes from
a song from " Woodstock ". Long time since I heard this one.

> Therefore all those who desire to attain the blessing of this art should
> apply themselves to study, should gather the truth from the books and
> not from invented fables and untruthful works. There is no way by which
> this art can truly be found (although men meet with many deceptions),
> except by completing their studies and understanding the words of the
> philosophers.

"...........completing their studies and understanding the words of the
philosophers" is absolutely most important and it is what we truly seek.

Very true and I agree. I also believe that " to complete their studies "
one will eventually have to do, to work, to experiment and also serve. He
will have to put the studies to practice. To dare to cross the thresholds.
To dare to do. To dare to light and tend to the fire. To dare to burn. To dare
to die and dare to change. To dare to be. Eventually the tests and trials will
be there and the calling for action will compel and all that one has learned
will have little value if he cannot do and will not dare.


To: Andre Le Sage

>Only when both are brought forth can they be united, but this is useless
>without the third, what you might call the animal stone which is distilled in
>your Head, after all we are but animals?

I enjoy your response very much. Yes , I do agree. The outer lab
work will be useless and the correspondences between what is happening
outside and what should be realized inside will not be had and no alchemical
transmutation in consciousness will be attained if the inner distillation also is
not practiced.


To: James Callaway

> ........but better yet to go to the source - spend some time with your
> melissa and learn her voice - you will have to be very small and quiet.

I like this very much. It is beautifully said, and I believe that I do
understand its deeper meaning. " Her Voice ", in the silence of the
inner garden.


Best Regards,

Steve Kalec


From: Andre Le Sage
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997


>>Only when both are brought forth can they be united, but this is useless
>>without the third, what you might call the animal stone which is
>>distilled in your Head, after all we are but animals?
>
> I enjoy your response very much. Yes , I do agree. The outer lab
> work will be useless and the correspondences between what is happening
> outside and what should be realized inside will not be had and no
> alchemical transmutation in consciousness will be attained if the
> inner distillation also is not practiced.

Would you also agree that these three distillations should be performed at
the same time?

But in all your correspondence the idea of Death or as you put it
"Dare to Die", is surely for us the most important, is not the Lady Sophia
'Our Lady' the Goddess that bestows wisdom, and might she also
bestow Death, is this the Philosophical death of Alchemy from which,
if we are fortunate, she pulls us from and thereby supplying Gnosis.
"ET IN ARCADIA EGO" I think is the popular phrase, Only in death
can one find The Garden of Gold Apples.

Death and rebirth are a familiar concept to all here, the question is
how real is the experience?

A