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OK - I now have a load of alternatives. Are all "gardens" a bad idea ? Just it works so easily for the lion.... Shadows are HARD !
OK - either of these any good ? (I also have a castle wall, but she sort of blends into that...)
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I like them both, gregory, and your shadows are fine. Maybe the one with the railings works better for me though, as all the patterns seem to work well together. The green garden tends to push forwards a little too much.
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Are you sure that's in brugges? I've spent quite a bit of time there and I'm sure I'd remember such a distinctive patch of green
Which background would convey the most meaning for Strength?
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Absolutely positive. It was grass from the Astridpark in which a rockfest was going on - the Red Rock Rally, on May 1st this year (well, every year, but it was this year that we went). There is more grass than there should be in the picture, after I deleted the little girl who WAS in there, when I took against my first attempt by - painting grass over her.
But I can show you the original photo if you want !
And you can see that there is a LOT of grass there here: (that sounds rather odd !!!)
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koningin_Astridpark_%28Brugge%29
and here. And the second link pic is close to where the pic was taken - the grass slopes on down and there was a huge stage at the bottom.
Most meaning... I would LIKE a desert but haven't a photo to hand.... Of those two I guess, like Pen, the railings, but the fearless girl is the THING, for me.
I wish you'd take the card, debra. Your cards are MUCH missed in these decks 
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Maybe the salt flats in Botswana.... I'd have to find and scan that...
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I am not sure if it fits with Strength, but I like the one with the architecture in the background the most. Somehow the lines and colours just seem to match the girl and lion. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
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Well, the railings are strong and she looks as though she's just about to cuff the creature round the ear.
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That was what I thought (about the railings) - and she isn't peeing any more !!! But I will scan in the salt flats and you can see what you all think. Later - I'm on the way out to buy paving slabs !!! Thanks, debra for taking away the grass - sometimes once one starts amending it never occurs to one that just finding a NEW background might be smart ! The grass worked with the girl that was photographed with it - but not since ! Last edited on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 01:54 pm by gregory
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OK - here is my positively probably last effort. This or the railings ? (Geez the devil was easy. That's what I get for taking on a second card when I had other plans for my life...) ETA: OH - I see part of her leg has kind of merged into the sand. That I can fix.
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Does this help?
I think I like the last one best. Can the backgound be muted any? the tree kinda distracts alittle. It's good there, but too strong.
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Man, I haven't gotten a post update from this thread in forever. Only just today noticed that there were many, many posts since I last looked (at which time the fate of the deck seemed in doubt). Glad to see there's still some weeks 'til the deadline.
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I could mute the tree. But I went right off the garden after Pen commented; she's right IMHO - so I think unless anyone else chips in, the railings have it.
Papoon - what do you think - since you are passing through ?
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Well, just to be a contrarian, I find that the railings are much too busy for a background. Either of the other two work better for me, but I'd also mute the green background.
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Maybe I need to find another pic of the salt pans with less tree....
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OK. The railings and a salt pans. Two more salt pans on the way.
I LIKE the salt pans.
Even if we did get a flat and we also had to push start the jeep...
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And the last of my salt pans.
The garden is hors de the running, OK. Toning it down makes it all pallid and icky.
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I think I now favour the one next to the railings, as the desert is desertier.
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I like the one on the salt pans the best. It somehow fits very well. And well, against the other voices here, I like the original one, with all the trees. Not muted. I think without trees, it looks a bit empty. If I have to choose one with less trees, then I would go for number 3, the one with the tree on the left side.
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The one next to the railings ? That was my final thought. Thanks. I see what skad means about the tree being rather strong for a background. I can always use it for something else !!!
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Mind you I have many more with fewer and smaller trees.... But I also have a life !
(They are, by the way, baobabs. the trees of life ! A deliberate choice, so I'd like to keep the tiny one at least !)
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I have been working on my tower. I have definately decided on the concept I want to follow. But... I now have several versions. So I would like some opinions on which one works best.
Number 1 and 2 are quite similar, but with different broken glass. Number 3 is a slightly different idea I started playing with, where you see earth through a hole in the glass (4 is the same, but then with a lightning bold added). Now I am not sure which works best...
There is still the logo of depositosphotos in all the pictures (and a arrow sometimes), because I first wanted to be sure which one I am gonna use before I buy the damn picture (of the broken glass, tried it myself, didn't work). So these are experiments on low-res. The final version will not have the logo.
So opinions please... 
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gregory wrote: Mind you I have many more with fewer and smaller trees.... But I also have a life !
(They are, by the way, baobabs. the trees of life ! A deliberate choice, so I'd like to keep the tiny one at least !)
Very appropiate indeed. I would say keep the tiny one in any case, but also keep the big one. I like it!  But that is my opinion.
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I MIGHT even find one with a smaller big one, like....
I like your tower - which makes skad's world particularly interesting !
Of yours I like no 1 best - the glass is more clearly broken, to my aged eyes !
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gregory wrote: I MIGHT even find one with a smaller big one, like....
I like your tower - which makes skad's world particularly interesting !
Of yours I like no 1 best - the glass is more clearly broken, to my aged eyes !
Thanks. I will see what others think.
And yes, it does make a link with the world from skad. Not that I meant it. When I saw her card a few days ago, I was thinking, I hope it won't be a problem. But it does make the two interesting indeed.
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I like the one with the lightning best.
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I like the lightning, yes - maybe add it to card no 1 - where the colours are also better balanced, IMHO. The dark sky is very good.
And now I have one with a little baobab. How's this ? (some older ones I shall now remove...)
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That one do for you then ?
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Very nicely, thank you. Better see what others think though.
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If no-one else answers soon I shall send it in anyway. I have a lot of other things need doing... I want it to Go Away !
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gregory wrote: If no-one else answers soon I shall send it in anyway. I have a lot of other things need doing... I want it to Go Away !
Remember you have Devil and descriptions yet..
Yeah, yeah, I know.... to me.
everyone but eno and Markosias should have gotten an email from me, I don't have their email addesses so I will pm them.
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The Fool
The Fool in all his innocence rushes joyfully into a giant wave, alarming and banishing the imp of doubt in the process. His black cat is unsure whether to accompany him or not (actually she's rather freaked out).
Coloured ink and crayon used to define perceived shapes in an abstract sloshing in black ink.
Judgement
A modern Druid stands before Stonehenge. He (or perhaps she), is unbearded, and holds a book. The Ancient Druids were known to have passed their knowledge on orally to preserve the faculty of memory and retain the Mysteries, but times have clearly changed. As well as being the priests of the Celtic tribes, one of the roles of the Ancient Druids was to pass judgement in cases of dispute, and they were recorded as intervening to make peace between warring factions.
The drawing is in black crayon on watercolour
paper.
Bio Penelope Cline
Artist and writer with a passion for tarot art and history, comparative religion, the esoteric and those places where myth and legend cross and mingle. Admirer of snails, creator of The Mystic Rubáiyát, The Pen Tarot and The Wild Green Chagallian Tarot. Currently working on a new 78 card tarot.Last edited on Tue Aug 7th, 2012 08:44 am by goldenweb
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You have my bio and descriptions by email now (I couldn't finish the latter till I was certain whether we were talking Brussels church or desert !). I will send the two cards together in a day or so.
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I like the last version, Gregory. With the little baobab. Works for me 
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Good - that's now running at three pro and none against :)
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four pro....
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Should I wash out the background a little (a privately received suggestion...)
Never mind. Skad - you should have both my hi-res cards now. WHEW !
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Ok, I think I need a little advice. I've got a working image that I really like. It's a collage from several (7, I think) Dover "royalty free" images. My main concern is that they may moire when reduced to card size? I know when I posted the image to my FB page it got real ugly, real quick due to moire created by the drop in resolution. Also, how do I post a sample image here - thanks! And one more thing, I think I've got the ratio correct, but would like to double-check, I'm currently working with a 300 dpi 4"x6" PSD image as my "working image," is that a correct submission format?
Here's a link to the image converted to a large JPG:
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Hi Markosias, nice card.
The jpg image you send Skad should be 2.5" x 3.75" and no lower a resolution than 300 dpi. Making the image smaller doesn't automatically reduce the dpi (dots per inch). So as long as the original Dover images you used were at least 300 dpi and larger than the finished card you can make the size (or the proportions) correct and it'll be OK.
If the original image was less than 300 dpi you'll need to do some fiddling - either rescan if you scanned the originals from a Dover book yourself, or (if the images came on a CD) adjust the dpi to 300 dpi while the image is large before adjusting the size to make it correct for the card. Needless to say, the image will need to be a few times larger (in size) than the finished card for this to work - it's no good just changing the dpi if the original images are only slightly larger than the finished card before reducing the size, as it won't have much effect (unless the dpi is very large, which is unlikely).
The proportions should be correct too.
Hope this helps,
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Five pro for the version of gregory's strength, that she has sent already anyway.
I also second gregory's suggestion for the tower: to put the lightning onto card 1.
I like the Temperance a lot too. Hopefully the stitching will still be visible in the printed card.
As for my wheel I hat one vote for the red and gray one, and one for the purple and yellow one. So I added my own vote and sent the purple one to skad1. I followed Goldenweb's suggestion to mute down the saturation of the yellow.
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And I like THAT a VERY lot, too.
Thanks, as I have already sent the card to skad.
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I sent my info and card a week or so ago, but haven't had any confirmation - I hope the email arrived OK
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Sorry I have been unavailable. My computer got sick, major trojan infection, it's currently at the hospital (Frys service) getting fixed. Apparently there have been alot of computers attacked and they are pretty busy. It's been a week and a half so far, and who knows how much longer. there is a chance that they may not be able to remove the infections, and will have to reload everything from BIOS up. So it'll take a week or so once I get it back to reload all my software.
I was tryong to save money by not having one of those expensive malware programs and not having full backup. Well, it will not be a financial savings. Please, Please, let me be a lesson, a simple virus checker is NOT enough, also get a good malware checker. AND keep a good back up
So, I did see alot of emails from ya'll in the email box, but I won't be able to get to them until I get mu computer back. So, essentially, the deadline has been postponed about 2 weeks.
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Malwarebytes is free. When you get your machine back GET it and install it. It protects me HUGE time. My techy recommends it above all the paid ones.
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Where's the best place to download it, gregory? There seems to be a basic version from the Malwarebytes company itself, and many free full versions from other websites, but which (if any) of those can be trusted? Better perhaps to download the free basic one from the proper site?
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That's where I get mine - or from cnet... - a safe download site I use a lot. There is LOADS of good stuff there.
It doesn't get excited about ordinary cookies, which I wish it did - but my AVG now picks those up !
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sorry for the delay.....computer at home crashed and is 3wheeks later still in the shop grrrrr
So i decided to to my last card 'low-tech' collage using Windows paint...the result is not super, but not that bad also
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