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| Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 12:04 pm |
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AdamMcLean
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I noticed this early copy of Le Grand Etteilla for sale through Krown & Spellman.
Le Grand Etteilla I . Tarot - Deck of Cards
Alliette, Jean Baptiste (a.k.a. Etteilla).
Bookseller: Krown & Spellman, Booksellers (Culver City,, CA, U.S.A.)
Price: £ 560.23
Book Description: France [Paris?]: c1890?, 1890. 119 x 66mm. 78 cards. Complete deck. Blacked with blue design on backs [differs from Cary 2517 and Kaplan-- his is described as blue swirl with eight arms], corners rounded,card #5 is dampstained in corner. ÒA pack of seventy-eight Etteilla cards was made by a unknown publisher in the second half of the nineteenth century. The cards were printed by lithography and stencil-colored, with surfaces polished. The absence of a tax stamp makes it likely that the deck was published before 1890. The designs are identical to those of the current Grimaud pack, except for the titles, and probably the same plates were used for both packs.Cards show standard Etteilla designs, with Arabic numerals in the lower right and upper left corners, and upright and reversed meanings on the tops and bottoms. Cars 1 through 12 have the signs of the zodiac printed in their upper left margins. Cards 2 through 8 show the Ôseven days of creationÕ and cards 2 through 5 correspond to one of the four elements, as indicated at the top and bottom of each card.Ó Kaplan II,p401"Beginning in 1770, Jean-Baptise Alliette, who preferred to use a pseudonym of his name spelled backwards, published his first book, Etteilla, ou maniere de se recreer avec un jeu de cartes par M***. He gained a large following who paid well for his services that included astrological readings, card readings, custom-made talismans and spiritual counseling. However, it wasn't until the works of Antoine Court de Gebelin appeared 1781 that Etteilla turned his attention to the occult. Court de Gebelin wrote an essay, "Du Jeu des Tarots" appearing in Le Monde Primitif expounding the view that the Major Arcana of the tarot pack constituted the Egyptian hieroglyphic Book of Thoth, saved from the ruins of burning temples thousands of years ago, and containing the synthesis of all human knowledge and profound mysticism.Etteilla's book, Maniere de se Recreer avec le Jeu de Cartes Nommees Tarots: Pour servir de premier Cahier a cet Ouvrage appeared in 1783 and depicted four tarot cards (9 La Justice, 10 La Temperance, 11 La Force and 12 La Prudence). Several years prior to Etteilla's death in 1791, an Etteilla pack was published with cards numbered from 1 to 78 and bearing regular and reverse meanings printed on each card, but the images did not include the four earlier Etteilla cards.Variations of the Etteilla pack subsequently were published in the 19th century and are designated Grand Etteilla I, II, or III depending upon the extent of text on the cards and/or artwork. The Grand Etteilla cards that are numbered 1 to 21 and card number 78 bear similarity in imagery to the Major Arcana of the Tarot of Marseilles. The correspondences in Etteille packs compared to the Tarot of Marseilles are as follows: Etteilla card number 2 compares to XIX The Sun, 3 to XVIII The Moon, 4 to XVII The Star, 5 to XXI The World, 9 to VIII Justice, 10 to XIV Temperance, 11 to XI Strength, 13 to VI The Lovers, 14 to XV The Devil, 15 to I The Magician 16 to XX Judgement, 17 to Death, 18 to IX The Hermit, 19 to XVI The Tower, 20 to X The Wheel of Fortune, 21 to VII The Chariot, and 0 to The Fool. The remaining Etteilla cards numbered 1, 6 to 8 and 12 depict images not refective of traditional Tarot of Marseilles designs. Cards numbered 22 to 77 are the Minor Arcana or pip cards running in sequence from king of clubs (card 22) to ace (card 35) followed by the suits of cups (36 to 49), suit of swords (50 to 63), and coins (64 to 77). Kaplan, I & II.The Cary Colleection set has two end cards not present here and possibly not issued with this version of the deck. Hoffmann/Kroppenstedt 66. Cary 2517 [var. back]. Kaplan II,403. BN 131 var.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 07:08 am |
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[differs from Cary 2517 and Kaplan-- his is described as blue swirl with eight arms]
I have this above described back design in both the "Le Grand Etteilla" and in a deck of 52 cards.
Here is a picture of the Etteilla book from that deck along with the card back Kaplan is describing and one of the 2 "blanks, or to some "signifactors" that come with the deck, the one I did not post is pink.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 03:47 pm |
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Here are some pictures of a copy I once owned ...
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 03:50 pm |
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More Pictures
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 03:52 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 04:07 pm |
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Card Back
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Interesting, my blanks are light pink and pale green, not blue.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 05:38 am |
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Saw that one. They seem to do better with low opening prices. I am going to follow it.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 04:43 am |
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tantricknite
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An article I found interesting describing the influence of Etteilla and his divinatory system on Mathers ,Waite and tarot in general can be found on James Revak website.
http://villarevak.org/emw/emw_1.htm ..
I think the Grand Ettellia is an under appreciated deck ....
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