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| Posted: Wed May 1st, 2019 07:59 pm |
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Peter
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Hi All,
I've just received a set of Jean Chaboseau's Le Tarot Traditionnel, apparently from 1948. The cards are in pretty good condition, except for the fact that the original owner appears to have been pretty dim ... they've written all over the cards and I can't believe the number of times they've had to correct the card number they've added to a card. Seriously, how difficult is it to memorise the sequence(s) of the major arcana?
I really need to spend time analysing the deck. The pentacles are fascinating as they include far more sophisticated alchemical symbols than most alchemy-related decks - The 4 of Pentacles/Quatre Deniers, for example, includes the symbols for Aqua Fortis (nitric acid) and Aqua Regia (nitric acid and hydrochloric acid)!
Anyway, one thing I notice is that the card back I have is different from the only copy I can see online, on Aeclectic:
https://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=272115
I have no idea how many print runs there were, but would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. If Mr La-Luna sees this, I'd very much like to discover what design is on the back of his deck.
https://mr-laluna.blogspot.com/2010/12/le-tarot-traditionnel-by-jean-chaboseau.html
I'm added two files, the first the back of my copy, the second that posted on Aeclectic.Attached Image (viewed 127 times):
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| Posted: Wed May 1st, 2019 08:02 pm |
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Peter
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Here's the variant back design from Aeclectic Attached Image (viewed 126 times):
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| Posted: Sun May 5th, 2019 10:34 am |
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Hello Peter,i have the same deck of Mr.Laluna,the same front and the same back and box,difficult to say howmany editions,perhaps Guido Gillabel could know
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| Posted: Sun May 5th, 2019 03:13 pm |
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Peter
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Hi Alice, thanks for the reply. La-Luna doesn't show which card back he has on his webpage. Is yours like mine or like the one on Aeclectic?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12th, 2019 08:43 am |
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If you are able to read French, and would like to investigate the deck further, then tracking down a copy of Chaboseau's book would be a good idea. It is rather rare though, and the paper stock was not great quality either.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12th, 2019 09:50 am |
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Peter
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Thanks for the advice, Ronan. I've read the extract available on the BnF Gallica website: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k33458014.texteImage
I've not had any luck, however, in getting hold of the original publication or even a pdf copy of the full essay. I tried buying a pdf on various French websites, but was refused as soon as it became clear I didn't live in France. For some reason they cannot sell digital scans outside France.
I'll just have to keep checking Abebooks, ZVAB, and all the usual suspects.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13th, 2019 11:09 am |
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Chaboseau's book is interesting for a number of reasons, although I suspect it would primarily be interesting to you on account of the images (reproduced on better stock paper at the end of the book, by the way).
The main thrust is a hermetic interpretation of the Tarot, but it also contains an interesting aside on a Buddhist interpretation too, based on the twelve nidanas, if memory serves. Incidentally, Chaboseau Senior was one of the original cohort of French occultists who became interested in Buddhism in the early 20th century, and wrote a book on the subject (available on Gallica or the Internet Archive, I think). His son's book is dedicated to his memory.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27th, 2019 06:35 am |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2019 05:37 pm |
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Peter
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Dear Ronan, thanks for your continuing support with helping me find a copy of Chaboseau's book. I tried the Canadian site, but I didn't have any luck. It seemed to stick on making a decision, probably because I had to identify my location and the same copyright restrictions perhaps came into play. I'll continue to check on Abebooks or next time I'm in London will go read the copy that I've discovered they have at the Warburg Institute.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2019 07:07 pm |
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Hi Ronan,
Just a quick note to say that my 1946 copy of Chaboseau's Le Tarot: Essai d'interpretation selon les Principes de l'Hermétisme has just arrived!  I can't wait to have time to read it and hadn't realised that it contains copies of all the images from the deck. I'll post a few scans when I have time.
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Hello Peter, good to hear you tracked down a copy. I have the book myself, but other members might appreciate some images.
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Here are a few images from Chaboseau's book. Apologies for the amateur photographs: Fool, Magician, and High Priestess Attached Image (viewed 53 times):
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Chaboseau's Empress, Emperor, and Pope Attached Image (viewed 53 times):
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Chaboseau's Hermit, Wheel of Fortune, and Strength Attached Image (viewed 52 times):
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Chaboseau's Hanged Man, Death and Temperance Attached Image (viewed 52 times):
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Chaboseau's World, King of Swords, and King of Cups Attached Image (viewed 52 times):
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Chaboseau's 5 of Pentacles, 5 of Wands, and 4 of Swords Attached Image (viewed 52 times):
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Peter
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If anyone would like to see copies of the cards, by way of comparison, drop me a line.
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