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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 05:36 pm |
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This doesn't seem to be a very "popular" deck so there is little info about it; however, I find the art style interesting for the 60s and did some searching to try and find the artist (listed only as "Yurica" with the cards).
I believe the artist is Katherine Yurica as the style is fairly distinctive but since I'm not an art historian I can't say for certain.
Here is the site - a little strange as some of the art essays seem to still be stuck in the 60s but I've only given a few a quick read:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Directories/Modern_AbstractArt.html#anchor731124
Does anyone have any other info about this deck other than what came in the box?
Thanks
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 09:15 pm |
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Delete. Not only wrong thread - but wrong FORUM !!!!
I do have this deck though - it was for use with a game, Ninth Dimension, as I recall. There were two versions, one coloured and one b/w.
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 09:25 pm |
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I don't have the color version but I keep on the lookout. Does the color version come with any different info than the BW version?
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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It may have originally - it would have been part of the game. But I got both as cards only in bags, as far as I recall !
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:19 pm |
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St. Croix Publishers, 1971 on my box. There is a booklet in the box that explains the "psychogenic game". The 9TH Dimension Tarot by Calmera Leosis. The artist you mentioned, Yurica, is listed on the back as one of the four people who are reviewing the game, and not as the artist for this particular deck. My cards are color.
Hope this helps
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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OOH - what does it say about the game ? But the artwork DOES look Yurica-ish....
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:52 pm |
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Here is the cover... I will scan the pages for you but my scanner is pretty basic...
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 06:48 pm |
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Interesting...the cards are identical to my BW 1969 except for the colour, of course. You don't need to scan all the pages, but could you give a brief description of the game? Or just if the game is similar to tarot?
Actually, I'm quite interested in the "Experiment and Test Results Scientifically" - especially the "Science" part ;)
It's also interesting that Yurica isn't listed as the artist, although I suppose that could reference the person/artist who coloured the images.
I don't recall exactly what was in my book - I'll have to check it again but offhand I don't think it mentioned a game, but I could be wrong :)
Thanks!
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 06:54 pm |
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Yes - they are indeed identical except for the added colour - sorry; I should have said ! The game came with the coloured cards, so the book for the b/w ones would perhaps have been before the game came up, as you might say !
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My b/w deck goes under the name Astral Tarot.
Here's tarot gardens info on them:
Astral Tarot
Designer(s), Artist(s): Mont-Saint-Johns
Country of Publication: U.S.A.
Number of Cards: 78
Publication Year: 1969, 1971
Publication Status: Out-of-Print
Reference: Encyclopedia of Tarot, vol. I, p. 232.
Description: Simple, abstract black-and-white tarot published in 1969. Pip cards are unillustrated. Republished (w/colors) in 1971 by St. Croix Inc. as part of its 9th Dimension Tarot game. 78 cards and softcover book in lidded cardboard box.
9th Dimension Tarot
Designer(s), Artist(s): Mont-Saint-Johns
Country of Publication: U.S.A.
Number of Cards: 78
Publication Year: 1971
Publication Status: Out-of-Print
Reference: Encyclopedia of Tarot, vol. I, p. 232
Description: Originally published in 1969 under the title 'Astral Tarot,' this 1971 deck was reissued by St. Croix Inc. as part of a tarot game. The illustrations are simple-but-original black-and-white drawings. The pip cards are unillustrated. 78 cards and softcover book in cardboard box
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And nowhere do we have an artist named
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I thought Mont Saint Johns was the guys name...
And St Croix the publisher
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I thought Mont St John's was the FIRST publisher and St Croix the second....
Somewhere last night I found something suggesting one Calmera Leosis was the artist. Heaven only knows where...
Ah. Mary Greer, on Passages:
1969 Mont-Saint-Johns Astral Tarot deck (b&w) with 20 page booklet, published by Mont-Saint-Johns. Art by Yurica. “Mont-Saint-Johns, Inc. felt our twentieth century computer age called for a modernized design that would remain faithful to the 78 ancient symbols and yet, would be more readily assimilated by the subconscious.” (see 1971, St. Croix)
1971 The 9th Dimension Tarot deck and 43 page booklet by Calmera Leosis published by St. Croix, Inc., Whittier CA. Revised edition of the Mont-Saint-Johns Astral Tarot (see 1969). B&w with colored backgrounds.
So Leosis wrote the book for the game.
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Has anyone checked the link in my first post re Katherine Yurica? I'm almost positive this is the same artist, but I suppose there is no way to actually confirm it. I did send an email a long time ago but never got a reply.
Not that it's critical to know, but it always makes the deck more interesting to me if I know something about the artist who created it - I guess it's the "curator" in me that appreciates documentation, and if I ever write a review or article I like to give proper credit whenever possible :)
Yes, I found the quote about the "computer age" and "modernized design" fascinating since the drawings are far from the "computer age" at the time - I guess that's why I find the deck interesting.
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Yes I did and I googled all over for her too - but I can't find anything to say yea or nay. It does look so like her though. I might PM Mary Greer !!!!
ETA I have done so.
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OK - Mary Greer says:
Gregory - The booklet (5-1/2 x 8-1/2, stapled, 20 pages +cover) that came with the 1969 B&W set is entitled: "The Secret of Tarot" - an instruction book for ASTRAL TAROT by Mont-Saint-Johns © 1969 by Mont-Saint-Johns
The Introduction states: "Mont-Saint-Johns, Inc. felt our twentieth century computer age called for a modernized design that would remain faithful to the 78 ancient symbols and yet, would be more readily assimilated by the subconscious. With this concept in mind, this deck was designed and executed by the artist Yurica, especially for Mont-Saint-Johns.
Examine each of these cards carefully and you will find they could separately be considered miniature works of art." The rest of the booklet has upright and reversed "key phrases" for each card and three spreads: • The Gypsy (Celtic Cross) Spread • The Wish Spread (15 cards) • The Thirty-Five Card Spread (a detailed version of the Gypsy Spread) The 9th Dimension Tarot booklet is by Calmera Leosis. (published by St. Croix, Inc., 1971)
Hope this helps. It's all I know about these cards.
Mary
So - yes, it seems it was she !
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nicole
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That is so wacky...the second version has the artist as one of four people commenting on the deck and has nothing about her being the actual artist ...
dang disorganized hippies LOL
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LOL! Gotta love hippies...
I guess "back in the day" attribution wasn't a big deal.
Thanks to Mary Greer! I finally found the book, and it has a rather complicated "mechanics of shuffling" but very thin on the card meanings, or "Phrase Guide."
It also states Tarot ". . .can be traced back fifteen hundred years to ancient Egypt and Chaldea." Don't tell the Tarot historians ;)
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 03:23 am |
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lulukat
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I have a copy of this, too.
I like it!
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 05:27 am |
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rylla
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It is one of my all time favorite too... unique and artistique...and, I get the most accurate reading with this deck...
rylla
there is picture on that website, it says
Click on Yurica's work here:
this picture is half of the Lovers card!!!
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 06:44 am |
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nicole wrote:
Here is the cover... I will scan the pages for you but my scanner is pretty basic...
LOL I love this packaging ... "WHO'LL WIN THE ELECTION?"
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 04:35 pm |
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 04:38 pm |
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rylla
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...and the hermit (same website):
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Posted: Sun Apr 29th, 2012 01:26 am |
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I never met Kathy.
I met Calmera Leosis about 1969 but didn't get to know her well until for another two years or so when she became my supervisor at the Department of Public Social Services in Los Angeles, California. She told me that Kathy was a terrific artist, and they had known one another for many years. Sometime in the 1960s they tried their hand at starting a greeting card business with Kathy's artwork and Cal's texts. Success was elusive. A large sale was made to an adoption agency (I believe it was for Christmas cards), and the decision was made to get out of that business and test the waters of something else. That something else was tarot cards.
St. Croix (the name came from an island visited earlier by a US president) offered tarot cards in black and white. It was considered a game, and it came with a booklet of instructions. Demonstrations were made at various retail outlets and, I believe, game expositions nationwide. The booklet was used extensively and openly as Cal would read the cards. In time, she told me, she believed that she had acquired a sixth sense that gave her insight into the lives of those whose cards she read. The cards became unnecessary. In the middle of one reading, she told an elderly woman there were two men her life. The older man was her true friend, but the younger man was a fraud who was only interested in her money. The woman told Cal that the older man was her attorney who had warned her many times about the intentions of the younger man. Yes, she would listen to her older and true friend. During another reading, she again felt a breakthrough of some kind with a young woman and started describing her personal problems, most of which involved men. The woman told Cal that she was wrong, that the woman whose life she was describing accurately and in great detail was her sister. Right story, wrong woman.
It's my understanding that at the close of WWII Cal had been a social worker or counselor to US military personnel in Germany. I do not recall hearing how she had become interested in tarot cards.
I remember learning that I was being transferred to her unit in the very early 1970s. Cal had a very unpleasant reputation at our large office. Nobody seemed to know the details, but people agreed she was someone to avoid. About a week after I started in her unit, during a talk with her about a case, I suddenly realized I was talking to a very nice lady. I came to see that her negative reputation was based on incidents involving her strong loyalty to the social workers in her unit. She would fight for us tooth and nail. In one instance that comes to mind, she took serious charges against me and had the complainer praising me as she left the office. That was Cal! A great lady.
I last saw Cal at her retirement luncheon about 1972-1973. I do not know what she did after her retirement. It was a pleasant surprise to find her name on Google last week.
Dale Thomas/Costa Rica
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I know this thread is old, and probably no one is looking for the information anymore, but I recently corresponded with Katherine Yurica, and she is indeed the artist of the Astral Tarot.
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Posted: Sat Aug 10th, 2013 06:29 am |
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Thanks for the confirmation. I like my lists to be correct when they can be, and this is one of my favorites.
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Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2013 11:57 am |
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Katherine Yurica is also known for her essays criticising right wing Christian American politics, for which she invented the term "Dominionists".
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