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What criteria do you use to decide a deck's 'collectibility' level?
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 Posted: Fri Nov 9th, 2007 04:18 am
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I tend to be a hotch-potch buyer.  I see a deck and like it, or I am in need of a bout of comfort buying to sooth anxious nerves, or I see something rare and I happen to actually have money.  I don't have any particular set of criteria which I apply before considering a 'buy'. 

Do you, and if so what are they?  And, what is it about a 'new release' deck that triggers that 'collector's item' buzz within you?

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mythos wrote: Do you, and if so what are they?  And, what is it about a 'new release' deck that triggers that 'collector's item' buzz within you?



I buy what I like and have a limited budget. My main criterion would be the artwork and if I like it. The second would be the deck's ability to help me learn something new like a new language or information about history or a specific artist.

New releases these days don't often give me any sort of buzz unless they are small press or self-published items. There lies real gold in my opinion--people who think outside the constraints of purists. If decks don't fit the conventional tarot system so much the better, it means you're going to get something with some thought in it.

 

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 Posted: Sat Nov 10th, 2007 06:08 am
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Hi, I am a new member and I just had to laugh when I read 'in need of a bout of comfort buying' cause that is so me! Gotta say it's relaxing. I think it's part of the addiction thing!

I have managed to at least restrict my collecting to decks that I actually like, rather than buying something just because it is collectible (mostly!) It is the pictures that I love. I sometimes consider whether it is a deck I would actually read with.

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Years ago I was in one of those cheap bookshops and they had the Glastonbury Tarot for £5. I never liked the look of it, but was tempted to buy it for that price just to add to the collection.

I made a decision then to only buy what I liked.

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 The second would be the deck's ability to help me learn something new like a new language or information about history or a specific artist.



Even though I don't like the art on the Pythagorean Tarot, I bought it for the book.  For learning.  I need to, and have been, studying number.  I am arithmetically challenged both in quantitative and qualitative terms.  Understanding number symbolism is both a passion, a need, and a masocistic act for me.  It is a need because of the deck that I am creating.  I am not prepared to just blindly follow where others have been before.  I need to grasp the essence.  So, with this individual deck ... it was, I suppose, both a pragmatic as well as a stubborn desire the defeat a problem I have.  Same with qabalistically-based decks.  So yes, learning is one deck buying criterion.

The odd thing is that, in spite of having a degree in philosophy, part of which (logic)arguably, can be reduced to number, or at least formulae, the only thing that sas stuck in my mind about Pythagoreanism it that one of it's main tenets is that it is sinful to eat beans. (See Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy).

The Bean Tarot:P;) ... now there is an idea!:shock::D

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 Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 12:02 am
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I like to buy decks that I think will increase in value. That means I can tell myself 'it's a good investment'! (Any excuse is a good excuse!) Sometimes it's really hard to guess what might end up being collectible, like the Stick Figure Tarot!                                                           Or I'll buy something just cause I can get a good deal on it. But again I try to stick with things I actually like. If something is beautiful, I'll buy it.

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 Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 05:29 pm
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I started out as a reader,bought a few books and read for myself and freinds.I also like art and some tarot to me seems to build on that.Tarot to me is the reconciliation of art and the soul.I'm also a member of a working Golden Dawn lodge and tarot is an important part of our work.One day I came across Kaplans encyclopedia in a book store and was blown away by how many decks I'd never heard of or seen.Eventualy I figured out that E-bay was a good way to build a collection.At first I paid way too much money for decks because I didn't know any better.After awhile I was able to get a better feel for what a decks value might be.The best advise I can give for buying on E-bay is to do a little research on the deck befor you buy.A lot of times you can buy the same deck from the artist at half the cost that a "rare" deck might be listed on E-bay for.I also think that long term tarot is a good investment.And because tarot is small you can store a lot of them without taking up a lot of space.They are also easy to mail and it doesn't cost a fortune to move them around.Imagine if you had 500 paintings you'd have a hard time displaying them all,moving them around and mailing them about would be expensive.......I'm not sure if I would descibe my buying as "comfort buying".I much more paticular about what I buy then when I first started out.I like small press,self published,unique and unuasuale tarot.I also have to like the Art......I don't have a lot of Asian tarot. I like the art and I think Asian tarot has taken the art of tarot in a whole new direction.I just haven't taken the time to study what going on with it and I'm hesitant to buy if it's not in English and if I'm not sure what the true value is.Asian communitys have a reputation for copying things so whos to say whats rare today won't get republished tommorow.Of course you can say that about the Tarot community as whole so maybe my points unfounded.Latley theres been a lot of "Hello Kitty" tarot offered on E-bay and I suspect most of those aren't originales but copys.....To wrap it up tarot is an important but small part of my life.I'm not obssesed with tarot or E-bay buying or building the worlds largest collection.It just that I'd rather read books or study tarot then to watch T.V....MIKE

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 Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 07:29 pm
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My position about decks that i buy seems to be that if i really love the deck than I won’t be disappointed afterwards when added to my collection. Before I was really impulsive about that love – one glance sufficed sometimes to go over to buying but since my budget isn’t as large as before I now set it apart and look it up for more info, images,… and my satisfaction with those I eventually chose has only grown.

As for the value of decks , well for me, they are all treasures but since a financial aspect comes into play, well after some time collecting and application and investigation into  decks one gets a real “nose” for those that are to fall into oblivion (disserved or not) and those that rise to a special height .

And those that are not only interesting for the tarot-community but have also other fields of interests (alchemy, popular artists, celebs, popular themes) are often those that have  the most collective value (especially if in limited editions ).

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 Posted: Sun Nov 11th, 2007 08:41 pm
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I decide to restrain myself and then don't manage to.....

My primary criterion now is price..... but after the small matter of the Charmed, I do manage not to buy decks I really dislike.... Usually.....

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 Posted: Mon Nov 12th, 2007 08:02 pm
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tantricknite wrote: Eventualy I figured out that E-bay was a good way to build a collection.
After reading this description I know why you beat me out on alot of auctions.  What you described is pretty much what I would have said.  Including the progression from paying too much, to learning alittle wisdom.

Ebay is good, but, like you said, it can be a buyers beware area.  I too have wondered about al the Hello Kitty decks.  I was just surprised that anyone was willing to pay 100 dollars for siomething that was 18 dollars last year.

It's hard to describe what is the criteria for buying a deck.  Sometimes collectablitly is important, sometimes the deck is just so neat I have to have it.  I was on a black and white or line drawings deck kick for awhile, but I am also attracted to the brilliantly colored.  But not the garishily colored (is that a word?) 

I do not read very much.  When I first started getting decks (it wasn't collecting yet) I did do a reading to get the feel of the deck.  Somewhere along the way I decided the future was best left to the future, and I would rather make my own decisions.  (OK, I got spooked!)   When I am temped to do a reading I tend to go for the very simple decks, and ones that are not estorically based. 

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